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Equipment Impacting Saving Throws=

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	=Equipment Impacting Saving Throws==		=Equipment Impacting Saving Throws=

	All equipment may have some saving throws affects, but the main piece is [https://rodpedia.realmsofdespair.info/wiki/The_Ice_Girth\|The Ice Girth]		All equipment may have some saving throws affects, but the main piece is [https://rodpedia.realmsofdespair.info/wiki/The_Ice_Girth\| The Ice Girth]

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	That's been in-game since way back when the old code I'm using in this page was probably production, so I think it also somewhat verifies that at the time in that older SMAUG version -9 was the max saving throw ever necessary to hit the cap 95% chance of saving. At that time, this piece 'maxed' your saving throws. I don't believe that's the case any longer in today's production code, but, its still a hella chunk and nothing else comes close.		That's been in-game since way back when the old code I'm using in this page was probably production, so I think it also somewhat verifies that at the time in that older SMAUG version -9 was the max saving throw ever necessary to hit the cap 95% chance of saving. At that time, this piece 'maxed' your saving throws. I don't believe that's the case any longer in today's production code, but, its still a hella chunk and nothing else comes close.





	=Integration with Resistance/Immune/Susceptible=		=Integration with Resistance/Immune/Susceptible=

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Admin: /* Applied Examples */

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Applied Examples

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	==Applied Examples==		==Applied Examples==
			(Brief Note: I don't know what I was smoking when I originally wrote this section but the math was wayyyyyyy wrong, I fixed now)


	*Victim level 50, spell level 50 with victim having a -9 saving throw:		*Victim level 50, spell level 50 with victim having a -9 saving throw:

Admin: /* Integration with Resistance/Immune/Susceptible */

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Integration with Resistance/Immune/Susceptible

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	*Note that 'immune' is a status really only pertains to mobs (who can be immune slashing, or fire, or whatever).		*Note that 'immune' is a status really only pertains to mobs (who can be immune slashing, or fire, or whatever).
	**There are not many player spells that make us immune to stuff. The most obvious one is Mage's "Invoila Magicka" which makes you immune magic, but then makes saving throws fully moot anyhow as you would be immune the damage regardless of saving throw success or not.		**There are not many player spells that make us immune to stuff. The most obvious one is Mage's "Invoila Magicka" which makes you immune magic, but that then makes saving throws fully moot anyhow as you would be immune the damage regardless of saving throw success or not.

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Admin: /* Conclusions */

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Conclusions

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	Not all spells/attacks grant a saving throw opportunity. Those that do are specifically coded with a unique damage modifier.		Not all spells/attacks grant a saving throw opportunity. Those that do are specifically coded with a unique damage modifier.

	~~This code outputs your percentage of succeeding a saving throw.~~ I don't really know how that is then rolled/calculated, but since its a percentage it shouldn't really matter. In D&D terms, 80% saving throw chance would just mean rolling a d20 and getting a 5 or higher. I'm assuming that one way or the other realms is doing similar math and simulated 'rolls'.		I don't really know how that is then rolled/calculated, but since its a percentage it shouldn't really matter. In D&D terms, 80% saving throw chance would just mean rolling a d20 and getting a 5 or higher. I'm assuming that one way or the other realms is doing similar math and simulated 'rolls' and returning true/false for saved/not.

	In situations where a mob launches an attack that grants a saving throw, you can significantly reduce the damage you eat by having a high saving throw.		In situations where a mob launches an attack that grants a saving throw, you can significantly reduce the damage you eat by having a high saving throw.

Admin: /* The Code */

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The Code

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	We'll limit that resulting value to between 5 and 95		We'll limit that resulting value to between 5 and 95

	We will ~~return~~ the chance the victim has to save -- ~~i.e. the %~~ or ~~number they need to 'roll~~' to save ~~themselves.~~		We will simulate a dice roll for the chance the victim has to save -- and return true (saved) or false (didn't save)

	==Applied Examples==		==Applied Examples==

Admin: /* The Code */

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The Code

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	We're going to have an integer number we call 'save'		We're going to have an integer number we call 'save'

	~~That 'save' is defined by taking the number~~ 50~~, adding~~ (victims level - ~~caster~~ level - victim saving throw for X), and ~~multiplying~~ by 5.		Starting from a base 50% chance

			Add (victims level - spell level - victim saving throw for X), and then multiply by 5. (Note, I honestly don't know if its the 'spell level' or 'caster level' but same diff)

	We'll limit that resulting value to between 5 and 95		We'll limit that resulting value to between 5 and 95
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	==Applied Examples==		==Applied Examples==

	*~~Mob~~ level 50, ~~player~~ level 50 with -9 saving throw:		*Victim level 50, spell level 50 with victim having a -9 saving throw:
	50 + (50 - 50 - (-9)) * 5		50 + (50 - 50 - (-9)) * 5
	50 + 9 * 5 = 95%		50 + 9 * 5 = 95%
	'''Returns:''' chance: (player, 95%) -- 95% saving throw ~~success~~		'''Returns:''' chance: (player, 95%) -- 95% saving throw chance

	*~~If the mob is~~ level 54, ~~player level 50~~ with -13 saving throw:		*Victim level 50, spell level 54, with victim having a -13 saving throw:
	50 + (50 - 54 - (-13)) * 5		50 + (50 - 54 - (-13)) * 5
	50 + 9 * 5 = 95		50 + 9 * 5 = 95
	'''Returns:''' chance: (player, 95%) -- 95% saving throw chance		'''Returns:''' chance: (player, 95%) -- 95% saving throw chance

	*If the ~~mob~~ is level 49, then:		*If the spell is level 49, then:
	50 + (50 - 49 - (-X) * 5		50 + (50 - 49 - (-X) * 5
	50 + (1 - (-X)) * 5 = 95		50 + (1 - (-X)) * 5 = 95

	Solving for X then results in -8 to achieve max 100% save chance against a level 49 ~~mob~~.		Solving for X then results in -8 to achieve max 100% save chance against a level 49 spell.

	Since we do most fighting here at Avatar level 50, then the only factor that really changes here is just the mobs level, and we can make a simple chart showing the max "Save vs. X" number you need to reach the cap 95% chance on a saving throw:		Since we do most fighting here at Avatar level 50, then the only factor that really changes here is just the mobs spell level, and we can make a simple chart showing the max "Save vs. X" number you need to reach the cap 95% chance on a saving throw:
	~~MoB~~ Level: 95% save number:		Spell Level: 95% save number:
	45: -4		45: -4
	46: -5		46: -5
	47: -6		47: -6
	48: -7		48: -7
	49: -8		49: -8
	50: -9		50: -9
	51: -10		51: -10
	52: -11		52: -11
	53: -12		53: -12
	54: -13		54: -13

	=Conclusions=		=Conclusions=

Admin: /* Maximum Saving Throw Value */

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Maximum Saving Throw Value

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	==Maximum Saving Throw Value==		==Maximum Saving Throw Value==
	At least in Smaug 1.8, and given I have never seen a mob higher than level 54, having a Save Vs. X of 13 is the max you would ever need for 100% success.		At least in Smaug 1.8, and given I have never seen a mob higher than level 54, having a Save Vs. X of -13 is the max you would ever need for 100% success.

	I am 1000% sure these numbers are all different in the current version, the point here is just to show how they work in general.		I am 1000% sure these numbers are all different in the current version, the point here is just to show how they work in general.

Admin: /* Applied Examples */

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Applied Examples

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	Since we do most fighting here at Avatar level 50, then the only factor that really changes here is just the mobs level, and we can make a simple chart showing the max "Save vs. X" number you need to reach the cap 95% chance on a saving throw:		Since we do most fighting here at Avatar level 50, then the only factor that really changes here is just the mobs level, and we can make a simple chart showing the max "Save vs. X" number you need to reach the cap 95% chance on a saving throw:
	MoB Level: 95% save number:		MoB Level: 95% save number:
	45: 4		45: -4
	46: 5		46: -5
	47: 6		47: -6
	48: 7		48: -7
	49: 8		49: -8
	50: 9		50: -9
	51: 10		51: -10
	52: 11		52: -11
	53: 12		53: -12
	54: 13		54: -13

	=Conclusions=		=Conclusions=

Admin: /* Applied Examples */

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Applied Examples

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	Since we do most fighting here at Avatar level 50, then the only factor that really changes here is just the mobs level, and we can make a simple chart showing the max "Save vs. X" number you need to reach the cap 95% chance on a saving throw:		Since we do most fighting here at Avatar level 50, then the only factor that really changes here is just the mobs level, and we can make a simple chart showing the max "Save vs. X" number you need to reach the cap 95% chance on a saving throw:
	MoB Level: ~~100~~% save number:		MoB Level: 95% save number:
	45: 4		45: 4
	46: 5		46: 5