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==Corpse Retrieval==
==Corpse Retrieval==
Commonly called 'CR', you might chat "can someone help me with a CR?"  
Commonly called 'CR', you might chat "can someone help me with a CR?"  


*'''Option 1:''' Walk back to where you died, get your shit from your corpse
*'''Option 1:''' Walk back to where you died, get your shit from your corpse
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*'''Option 2:''' Use your deity to 'supplicate corpse'  
*'''Option 2:''' Use your deity to 'supplicate corpse'  
**Much easier. Read on.
**Much easier. Read on.


=Deities=
=Deities=
There are 2 deities which make favoring/supplicating a joke, and you should pick one of those to get started.
==Which Deity Should I Pick?==
==Which Deity Should I Pick?==


There's a bunch, and they each have minor advantages I will list below, but honestly if you are new don't bother with that shit yet, it's splitting hairs and not going to make a huge difference to your first characters (and you can change later). You just want the easiest deities to supplicate your corpse with, which are:
There's a bunch, and they each have minor advantages I will list below, but honestly if you are new don't bother with that shit yet, it's splitting hairs and not going to make a huge difference to your first characters (and you can change later anyways). You just want the easiest deities to supplicate your corpse with, which are:


  For Good align: [[https://rodpedia.realmsofdespair.info/wiki/A%27enari A'enari]]      (Any classes besides the 3 evil ones below)
  For Good align: [[https://rodpedia.realmsofdespair.info/wiki/A%27enari A'enari]]      (Any classes besides the 3 evil ones below)
  For Evil align: [[https://rodpedia.realmsofdespair.info/wiki/Vl%27aresch Vl'aresch]]  (Vamps, Nephs, Thieves)
  For Evil align: [[https://rodpedia.realmsofdespair.info/wiki/Vl%27aresch Vl'aresch]]  (Vamps, Nephs, Thieves)
I just use those on all my characters. I don't give a shit about the minor bonus's the other ones give you. The advantage of quick favoring and corpse retrieval with those is, to me, fucking worth it. Some random minor 5% this or that bonus isn't game breaking to me, I'm not living or dying because of those deity bonuses, so I'd rather get my corpse back and get back to work in under 2 minutes.




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**Each time you walk into their room you gain favor. You can simply walk in/out/in/out of their room a bunch.
**Each time you walk into their room you gain favor. You can simply walk in/out/in/out of their room a bunch.


Use the links above, follow the dirs, go e/w/e/w/e/w a bunch.


==Best Practices==
==How to Master Death==
Death is simple, and easily rectified. You shouldn't be afraid to die. You should just be prepared correctly and it will be no big thang.  
Death is simple, and easily rectified. You shouldn't be afraid to die. You should just be prepared correctly and it will be no big thang.  


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=Full Details=
Honest to god the rest of this shit don't matter. Just use Aen/Vla and fuck it you're golden.


==Supplication==
==Supplication==
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Then you can go and explore and die whenever, when you do, just use 'supplicate corpse' and get all your shit back. Then go re-favor again back to praised.
==Full Deities List==
When you're ready for more overwhelming information, see https://rodpedia.realmsofdespair.info/wiki/Deity
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
!Deity
!Prefers
!Despises
!Sigil Stat (+1)
!Max Favor Resist
!Max Favor Affect
!Gain Favor
!Lose Favor
|-
|A'enari||Devout||Neut/Evil, Drow||Int||Unholy||Scry||Visit, Bury Corpses, Helping Others||Digging up corpses, Thievery, visiting Vl'aresch
|-
|Vl'aresch||Evil||Pixies||Wis||Holy||Detect Hidden||Visit, Steal, Kill Pixies||Bury Corpses, Helping Others
|-
|}
 
 
 
*Note that deities will give slightly different Affects at less than max favor. I'm not listing all of those.
**Example: A'enari gives Detect Evil at low favor levels, Detect Magic in the mid range, and then Scry at Max favor.
 
 
 
 
==Favor Details==
The following actions will impact your favor.
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
!Action
!Description
!Note
|-
|Flee        || Flee
|-
|Flee_npcrace || Flee from race deity likes||
|-
|Kill        || Kill a mob or player||
|-
|Kill_npcrace || Kill mob from race deity likes||
|-
|Kill_magic  || Cast an offensive spell (Not on self)||
|-
|Sac          || Sacrifice a corpse||
|-
|bury_corpse  || Bury a corpse||
|-
|aid_spell    || Cast a defensive spell on a player|| "Helping Others"
|-
|aid          || Successfully Rescue or Aid||"Helping Others"
|-
|steal        || Steal, Broach, Pick exit or object|| "Thievery"
|-
|backstab    || Backstab, Circle|| "Thievery"
|-
|die         || Dying||
|-
|die_npcrace  || Dying to a mob from race deity likes||
|-
|spell_aid    || Cast a defensive spell (Any)|| "Helping Others"
|-
|dig_corpse  || Digging up a corpse||
|-
|die_npcrace  || Dying to a mob from race deity hates||
|-
|Flee_npcfoe  || Flee from race deity hates||
|-
|Kill_npcrace || Kill mob from race deity hates||
|-
|}
 
==Favor Level Details==
Favor is a numeric value, players cannot see this.
 
<pre>
loved          +2251 to +2500
cherished      +2001 to +2250
honored        +1751 to +2000
praised        +1501 to +1750
favored        +1251 to +1500
respected      +1001 to +1250
liked          +750  to +1000
tolerated      +251  to +750  <---500 range
ignored        -249  to +250  <---500 range
shunned        -250  to -749  <---500 range
disliked      -750  to -999
dishonored    -1000 to -1249
disowned      -1250 to -1499
abandoned      -1500 to -1749
despised      -1750 to -1999
hated          -2000 to -2249
damned        -2250 to -2500
</pre>
 
Note how most ranges are 250 pts, except near the center where there are 500pt ranges.
 
 
==Supplication==
The deity system allows you to use your deity to bring you a few things, via the 'supplicate' command:
 
See: help supplicate
 
Syntax: supplicate <THING>
          corpse   retrieves your corpse from supplicatable room(s)
          avatar  summons an avatar of your deity
          object  summons a sigil of your deity
          recall  sends you to your recall point (bypasses norecall flags)
          restore  completely restores hitpoints, mana, and movement
 
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
!THING
!Min Favor
!Note
|-
|Corpse || Praised || If multiple corpses exist, they will ALL be brought to you
|-
|Object || Liked* || Sigils all have 20ac, Affect AC -20, and +1 to a stat.
|-
|Restore|| Liked* || If you're about to die, try 'supp restore' to save your ass
|-
|Recall || Liked* || If you forgot a recall, or if you're about to die, try 'supp recall' to gtfo (Note: You'll lose a shit ton of xp)
|-
|Avatar || Liked* || The avatar is like a pet NPC that will fight with you, but they suck. The more useful thing to do with them is use them to mark a room in a maze.
 


When you're ready for more overwhelming information, see https://rodpedia.realmsofdespair.info/wiki/Deity
For all of the "Liked*" the value required is actually in the upper portion of the "Liked" range, probably around +850. So, it's possible to be "Liked" but not liked ENOUGH to supplicate those.

Revision as of 09:42, 23 October 2024

Death

  • Upon death, you will awake in the Temple of Notre Dame. See 'help map'.
    • To walk back to Darkhaven Square: #5 s; e; e; se
    • The Halls of Knowledge (where you may have been initially exploring upon first entering the game) is then: #3 e, s; d
  • If you die while under level 10, you keep all your gear and can just get right back to doing whatever you were doing.
If you die after level 10, your corpse with all your gear remains where you died. You must retrieve your corpse so you can get your gear out of it.

Corpse Retrieval

Commonly called 'CR', you might chat "can someone help me with a CR?"

  • Option 1: Walk back to where you died, get your shit from your corpse
    • You are naked. Go buy a light first. And maybe a recall scroll. You should save/quit/relog so that any mobs which were aggro on you drop aggro.
  • Option 2: Use your deity to 'supplicate corpse'
    • Much easier. Read on.


Deities

Which Deity Should I Pick?

There's a bunch, and they each have minor advantages I will list below, but honestly if you are new don't bother with that shit yet, it's splitting hairs and not going to make a huge difference to your first characters (and you can change later anyways). You just want the easiest deities to supplicate your corpse with, which are:

For Good align: [A'enari]       (Any classes besides the 3 evil ones below)
For Evil align: [Vl'aresch]   (Vamps, Nephs, Thieves)


I just use those on all my characters. I don't give a shit about the minor bonus's the other ones give you. The advantage of quick favoring and corpse retrieval with those is, to me, fucking worth it. Some random minor 5% this or that bonus isn't game breaking to me, I'm not living or dying because of those deity bonuses, so I'd rather get my corpse back and get back to work in under 2 minutes.


How to Devote to a Deity?

You devote to a deity by walking to their room and using the command 'devote <deity>'.

View your current deity, and favor with that deity in the 'score' command output.

How to Gain Favor?

After devoting, you can check 'score' to see your current favor level with your deity. (See 'help favor_levels' for the full scale of favors)


  • 'For A'enari/Vl'aresch: Just walk in/out/in/out/in/out of their room to gain favor (do it until you are "praised")
    • Each time you walk into their room you gain favor. You can simply walk in/out/in/out of their room a bunch.

Use the links above, follow the dirs, go e/w/e/w/e/w a bunch.

How to Master Death

Death is simple, and easily rectified. You shouldn't be afraid to die. You should just be prepared correctly and it will be no big thang.


1. Devote to A'enari or Vl'aresch

2. Go visit them and walk in/out until you are at "praised" favor

3. Go explore and die

4. Do 'supplicate corpse' and 'get all corpse; wear all' a bunch to get all your shit

5. Immediately go back to the deity and re-favor back up to praised.

6. Return to Step 3.


Full Details

Honest to god the rest of this shit don't matter. Just use Aen/Vla and fuck it you're golden.

Supplication

The deity system allows you to use your deity to bring you a few things, via the 'supplicate' command:

See: help supplicate
Syntax: supplicate <THING>
         corpse   retrieves your corpse from supplicatable room(s)
         avatar   summons an avatar of your deity
         object   summons a sigil of your deity
         recall   sends you to your recall point (bypasses norecall flags)
         restore  completely restores hitpoints, mana, and movement

Some notes on those:

  • Corpse: The most useful thing to supplicate. If you've died multiple times, ALL of your corpses will get brought to you.
  • Object: Sigil's have 20AC, Affect AC -20, and have a +1 to a stat.
  • Restore: If you're abouttttt to die.... try 'supplicate restore' to save your own ass
  • Recall: If you're out of recalls, or also about to die... try 'supplicate recall' for a quick trip home
  • Avatar: The avatar is like a pet NPC that will fight with you, but they suck. The more useful thing to do with them is use them to mark a room in a maze.



Full Deities List

When you're ready for more overwhelming information, see https://rodpedia.realmsofdespair.info/wiki/Deity

Deity Prefers Despises Sigil Stat (+1) Max Favor Resist Max Favor Affect Gain Favor Lose Favor
A'enari Devout Neut/Evil, Drow Int Unholy Scry Visit, Bury Corpses, Helping Others Digging up corpses, Thievery, visiting Vl'aresch
Vl'aresch Evil Pixies Wis Holy Detect Hidden Visit, Steal, Kill Pixies Bury Corpses, Helping Others


  • Note that deities will give slightly different Affects at less than max favor. I'm not listing all of those.
    • Example: A'enari gives Detect Evil at low favor levels, Detect Magic in the mid range, and then Scry at Max favor.



Favor Details

The following actions will impact your favor.

Action Description Note
Flee Flee
Flee_npcrace Flee from race deity likes
Kill Kill a mob or player
Kill_npcrace Kill mob from race deity likes
Kill_magic Cast an offensive spell (Not on self)
Sac Sacrifice a corpse
bury_corpse Bury a corpse
aid_spell Cast a defensive spell on a player "Helping Others"
aid Successfully Rescue or Aid "Helping Others"
steal Steal, Broach, Pick exit or object "Thievery"
backstab Backstab, Circle "Thievery"
die Dying
die_npcrace Dying to a mob from race deity likes
spell_aid Cast a defensive spell (Any) "Helping Others"
dig_corpse Digging up a corpse
die_npcrace Dying to a mob from race deity hates
Flee_npcfoe Flee from race deity hates
Kill_npcrace Kill mob from race deity hates

Favor Level Details

Favor is a numeric value, players cannot see this.

loved          +2251 to +2500
cherished      +2001 to +2250
honored        +1751 to +2000
praised        +1501 to +1750
favored        +1251 to +1500
respected      +1001 to +1250
liked          +750  to +1000
tolerated      +251  to +750   <---500 range
ignored        -249  to +250   <---500 range
shunned        -250  to -749   <---500 range
disliked       -750  to -999
dishonored     -1000 to -1249
disowned       -1250 to -1499
abandoned      -1500 to -1749
despised       -1750 to -1999
hated          -2000 to -2249
damned         -2250 to -2500

Note how most ranges are 250 pts, except near the center where there are 500pt ranges.


Supplication

The deity system allows you to use your deity to bring you a few things, via the 'supplicate' command:

See: help supplicate
Syntax: supplicate <THING>
         corpse   retrieves your corpse from supplicatable room(s)
         avatar   summons an avatar of your deity
         object   summons a sigil of your deity
         recall   sends you to your recall point (bypasses norecall flags)
         restore  completely restores hitpoints, mana, and movement


THING Min Favor Note
Corpse Praised If multiple corpses exist, they will ALL be brought to you
Object Liked* Sigils all have 20ac, Affect AC -20, and +1 to a stat.
Restore Liked* If you're about to die, try 'supp restore' to save your ass
Recall Liked* If you forgot a recall, or if you're about to die, try 'supp recall' to gtfo (Note: You'll lose a shit ton of xp)
Avatar Liked* The avatar is like a pet NPC that will fight with you, but they suck. The more useful thing to do with them is use them to mark a room in a maze.


For all of the "Liked*" the value required is actually in the upper portion of the "Liked" range, probably around +850. So, it's possible to be "Liked" but not liked ENOUGH to supplicate those.