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*'''For Other Deities:'''
*'''For Other Deities:'''
**You'll need to get into the weeds to learn exactly what the deity likes/dislikes to learn how to favor up quickly.
**You'll need to get into the weeds to learn exactly what the deity likes/dislikes to learn how to favor up quickly.
**I have that stuff spec'd out more in-depth in the table below, or upon each deity's individual page
**I have that stuff spec'd out more in-depth in the table below, or upon each deity's individual page [[:Category:Deities | HERE]]


==How to detect "Full" Favor==
==How to detect "Full" Favor==

Revision as of 01:26, 17 November 2025


This page outlines what deities are and what you can do with them (the favor and supplication systems).

If you're just looking for a table of their attributes/benefits, see my Deity MegaTable


Deities

Having a deity provides 3 benefits:

  • Supplicate command: Your deity will bring you 'stuff' (outlined below)
  • Affects: Gain some minor affects (See: Here)
  • Resistance: Ggain a 10% resistance to something (See: Here)

Accessing these benefits however requires you to gain favor with your deity.

Which Deity Should I Pick?

There's a bunch, and they each have minor advantages but honestly if you are new don't bother with that shit yet, it's splitting hairs and not going to make a huge difference to your first characters (and you can change later anyways). For your first char you just want the easiest deities to 'favor up' with so you can supplicate your corpse whenever you die. Pick one of these:

For Good align: [A'enari]    (Works for most classes, dislikes Thieves however) 
For Evil align: [Vl'aresch]  (Also Neutral align chars)


I just use those on all my characters. I don't give a shit about the minor bonus's the other ones give you. The advantage of quick favoring and corpse retrieval with those is, to me, fucking worth it. Some random minor 5% this or that bonus isn't game breaking to me, I'm not living or dying because of those deity bonuses, so I'd rather get my corpse back and get back to work in under 2 minutes. The process of gaining favor with a deity is a bitch that can take a fucking while, that's not what I want to be doing with my time, let alone doing it under duress in the middle of a run or something.

When you've hit a new low in your own personal life, decide you were never meant to meet a woman and truly 'give up', and are ready to look into the rest of the Deities you can check em all out in greater depth in the tables at the bottom of this page, or for even more info see HERE

How to Devote to a Deity?

You devote to a deity by walking to their room or their naos and using the command 'devote <deity>'.


You can always view/check your own deity in the 'score' command output

You can see other players deities in the 'whois CHARACTER' command output

Favor

In-game, see 'help favor_levels' for this listing of favor levels

In-game, see 'score' to find your current favor level with your deity

Behind the scenes in the game code, favor is a numeric value (players cannot see this, it's visible in the publicly released SMAUG 1.8 code however).

loved          +2251 to +2500
cherished      +2001 to +2250
honored        +1751 to +2000
praised        +1501 to +1750
favored        +1251 to +1500
respected      +1001 to +1250
liked          +750  to +1000
tolerated      +251  to +750   <---500 range
ignored        -249  to +250   <---500 range
shunned        -250  to -749   <---500 range
disliked       -750  to -999
dishonored     -1000 to -1249
disowned       -1250 to -1499
abandoned      -1500 to -1749
despised       -1750 to -1999
hated          -2000 to -2249
damned         -2250 to -2500

Note how most ranges are 250 pts, except near the center where there are 500pt ranges.


How to Gain Favor?

After devoting, you can check 'score' to see your current favor level with your deity.

  • For A'enari/Vl'aresch:
    • Each time you walk into their room you gain favor.
    • Use the Deity Directions, follow the dirs to the deity, then go e/w/e/w/e/w in/out of their room a bunch.
    • This method maxes out at "Praised" favor.

The "Praised" level is what you need to be at to 'supplicate corpse'. So, with these deities you essentially always have the ability to supp corpse, and then re-favor back up to Praised in like 30 second, and repeat that process of dying/supplicating/refavoring quite quickly.


  • For Other Deities:
    • You'll need to get into the weeds to learn exactly what the deity likes/dislikes to learn how to favor up quickly.
    • I have that stuff spec'd out more in-depth in the table below, or upon each deity's individual page HERE

How to detect "Full" Favor

While the highest favor level is "Loved", that itself is a range from +2251 to +2500 favor "points", and sometimes you want to be sure you are absolutely fully maxed on favor (+2500). This comes in to play with some things like creating the Super Sigils (outlined below) or other tasks about the realms.


Since you see special Resistance and Affects benefits at full max favor, just check for those:

  • Run the 'aff by' command and look for the benefits outlined for your deity Here
    • Note you may want to dispel all other spells first to be sure what you're seeing is from your deity and not a spell or potion.

Favor Technical Details

The following actions may impact your favor. These are found in the older SMAUG code, some seem redundant - because they are, as newer code has been added into the game over time which now entail/encompass previous conditions, yet both remain active.

Theoretically all of the flavor text that outlines what deities "like/dislike" to gain favor should correspond to these.

  • See Here for more info on how to gain favor with each Deity.
Action
Flee
Flee from race deity likes/hates
Kill a mob or player
Kill mob from race deity likes/hates
Sacrifice a corpse
Bury a corpse
Dig up a corpse
Cast an offensive spell (Not on self)
Cast a defensive spell on a player
Cast a defensive spell (Any)
Successfully Rescue or Aid
Steal, Broach, Pick exit or object
Backstab, Circle
Die
Die to a mob from race deity likes/hates

Supplication

The deity system allows you to use your deity to bring you a few things, via the 'supplicate' command:

See: help supplicate
Syntax: supplicate <THING>
         corpse   retrieves your corpse from supplicatable room(s)
         avatar   summons an avatar of your deity
         object   summons a sigil of your deity
         recall   sends you to your recall point (bypasses norecall flags)
         restore  completely restores hitpoints, mana, and movement


THING Min Favor Note
Corpse Praised If multiple corpses exist, they will ALL be brought to you
Object Liked* Sigils all have 20ac, Affect AC -20, and +1 to a stat.
Restore Liked* If you're about to die, try 'supp restore' to save your ass
Recall Liked* If you forgot a recall, or if you're about to die, try 'supp recall' to gtfo (Note: You'll lose a shit ton of xp)
Avatar Liked* The avatar is like a pet NPC that will fight with you, but they suck. The more useful thing to do with them is use them to mark a room in a maze.


For all of the "Liked*" the value required is actually in the upper portion of the "Liked" range, probably around +850. So, it's possible to be "Liked" but not liked ENOUGH to supplicate those.


Corpse

  • Minimum Favor Required: Praised
  • Favor Cost: 1000 (4 Favor Levels - Praised will drop to Tolerated, etc)
  • Syntax: supplicate corpse
    • If you have multiple corpses out in the world, all of them will be brought to you.
  • Restrictions: Some rooms/areas in the realms are "no-supplicate".
    • This means that if you die there you cannot use your deity to supplicate your corpse.
    • Take extraaaaa caution in these areas, as you will have to return there (buck naked) to retrieve your gear from your corpse if you die.


Don't forget that you can use the 'remains' command to check on your corpse(s), its location, and status of rotting.


Also.... note that your corpse is a thing that's laying on the floor. Don't supplicate corpse while you're in some place up in the air or your corpse will fall down until it actually hits solid ground. If that's more than 3 rooms, your corpse will explode and all your crap will be just laying on the ground there, free for anyone to pick up. Always supplicate corpse somewhere safe, on the ground.

Sigils

  • Minimum Favor Required: Liked
  • Favor Cost: 750 (3 Favor Levels - Praised will drop to Liked, etc)
  • Syntax: supplicate object


Supp object creates a piece of equipment, always a light, always named "the sigil of <YOUR DEITY>"

  • They are all identical in their basic specs (hp/mn/mv/ac)
  • They each include a different STAT +1
    • See the "Sigil Stat" column Here


Object 'the sigil of DEITY' is infused with your magic...
It is a level 50 light, weight 1.
Special properties:  none
This light has a gold value of 0.
Affects hp by 20.
Affects mana by 20.
Affects moves by 20.
Affects armor class by -20.
Affects __STAT__ by 1.


Note that sigils are not in any way restricted as far as who can wear them. You do not need to be devoted to a specific deity to wear their sigil.

Sigil Renames

Sigils have a tiny bit of fun built into them as they can be upgraded twice.

The first upgrade merely renames the sigil to something slightly more interesting.


To upgrade:

  1. Be at Max Loved favor
  2. Have a sigil of your deity
  3. Give the sigil to your Deity

There is a percent chance that your deity hands it back to you with a fun rename. See "Sigil Rename" column Here

Note that this does cost favor to attempt, similar to supplicating something, so you'll need to re-favor back to full Loved favor to try again.

Super Sigils

Once you have renamed a sigil, you can attempt to upgrade it a second time if you want.

  • The Sigil will once again be renamed into its special Super Sigil name. (See "Super Sigil" column Here)
  • Super Sigils have a great deal more stats on them than regular or renamed sigils. (See Below)

NOTE: Super Sigils are temporary items - they expire and go poof eventually (few hours).


The method to upgrade a Renamed Sigil into a Super Sigil is the exact same:

To upgrade:

  1. Be at Max Loved favor
  2. Have a Renamed Sigil of your deity
  3. Give the Renamed Sigil to your Deity

Again, there is a percent chance your deity will turn it into a Super Sigil for you.

All Super Sigils have identical specs:

Object '__________' is infused with your magic...
It is a level 50 light, weight 1.
Special properties:  glow
Alignments allowed:  good
This light has a gold value of 800.
Affects affected_by by detect_hidden
Affects affected_by by detect_invis
Affects affected_by by detect_magic
Affects affected_by by detect_traps
Affects affected_by by detect_evil
Affects armor class by -50.
Affects moves by 30.
Affects mana by 30.
Affects luck by 2.
Affects hp by 30.

Restore

  • Minimum Favor Required: Liked
  • Favor Cost: 750 (3 Favor Levels - Praised will drop to Liked, etc)
  • Syntax: supplicate restore
  • Restrictions: no-supplicate rooms

This will immediately restore you to full health, full mana, full movement.

This is used to save your own ass if are in a fight and getting romped and are about to die.


Recall

  • Minimum Favor Required: Liked
  • Favor Cost: 750 (3 Favor Levels - Praised will drop to Liked, etc)
  • Syntax: supplicate recall
  • Restrictions: no-supplicate rooms

This is just a free recall.

Note that some rooms/areas which are 'no-supplicate' also prevent you from using 'supp recall' to exit those areas/rooms.


Avatar

  • Minimum Favor Required: Liked
  • Favor Cost: 750 (3 Favor Levels - Praised will drop to Liked, etc)
  • Syntax: supplicate avatar
  • Restrictions: no-supplicate rooms

This summons a level 15 NPC who is your little minion and can do stuff at your behest.

Ultimately these are not useful in fighting, and die quickly. They are MORE commonly used (its the ONLY time I've ever seen them used) to mark rooms in mazes that otherwise prevent you drop dropping items or creating magic springs/fires to flag a specific room. You can park a supplicated avatar in one of those rooms as a marker. Basically an easier method than bringing in another actual char (or where you must remain IP1).


Quick Favor Guide

These deities have some 'trick' or easy peazy (and scriptable) methods to gain favor:

Deity To Gain Favor
A'enari Walk in/out of their room until Praised
Vl'aresch Walk in/out of their room until Praised
Sh'Vath Walk in/out of their room until Cherished
Masefi Attack Inyasa in Mountain of Lost Souls, flee/return/flee/return for like 3 minutes until Loved
Ghordohl Visit and pay him 1m coins per favor level.


These rest of them have more 'traditional' (i.e. pain in the ass) favoring methods, like killing & sacrificing corpses. As I test more I will update the table above with other easy ones, and maybe build out a quick-reference table for the traditional ones.

Characteristics

Any Class/Race Restrictions mean ONLY those listed may devote.

Deity Theme Race Restrictions? Class Restrictions? Prefers Despises Gain Favor Lose Favor
A'enari Good - - Devout Evil/Neut, Drow Visit, Bury Corpses, Help Others Dig up corpses, Backstab/Circle, Flee, Visit Vl'aresch
Vl'aresch Evil - - Evil Pixies Visit, Kill, Kill Pixies, Steal Bury Corpses, Help Others
Bron'trel Order - - Humans Half-Trolls,Thieves Kill, Kill Trolls Kill Humans, Backstab/Circle, Flee, Visit LaChte
LaChte Chaos - - Evil/Neut Dwarves Kill, Kill Dwarves, Thievery, Dig Up Corpses Sac Corpses, Flee
Z'hyal Sun - - Devout/Neut Evil, Vampires Helping Others, Kill Vampires Kill Humans, Steal, Flee
Gre'vos Moon Dwa,Elf,Hlf,Pix,H-Elf,H-Ogre,H-Trol,Gith,S-Elf,Drow,Gno - Evil/Neut, Vampires Devout, Humans Kill, Kill Humans, Backstab/Circle, Sac Corpses Kill Vampires
Mak'kor Demons Drow,Gith,H-Troll Nep,Thi,Vam,Cle Evil Half-Elves, Clerics, Thieves Kill, Backstab/Circle, Dig Up Corpses, Offensive Magic Sac Corpses, Flee
Bael Death Drow,Gith,Dragborn Nep,Cle,Vam,War Evil Devout/Neut, Thieves Kill, Sac Corpses, Dig Up Corpses Killing Humans
Sarane Feminism - - Females ONLY - Kill, Kill Neanderthal, Offensive Magic, Backstab/Circle Kill Harpies
Wirawyth Battle - War,Ran,Pal,Bar - Drow Kill, Kill Drow, Sac Corpses Flee, Pick Lock
Estathius Neutrality - - Neut Gender ONLY, Human - Kill, Kill Undead, Sac Corpses Kill Humans, Flee
Kardis Sorrow H-Orc,H-Ogr,H-Trol Thi,War,Aug ONLY Neutral/Evil Aligns - Kill, Dig Up Corpses Sac Corpses, Bury Corpses, Flee.
Adendra Faith Elf,H-Elf,Dwa Pal,Cle,Dru Elves Evil, Trolls, Drow Visit, Kill, Kill Trolls/Drow, Use Magic Kill Elves, Flee
Shivvan Sin - - Evil Good Visit, Kill, Backstab/Circle, Dig Up Corpses Sac Corpses, Bury Corpses, Defensive Spells
Sh'Vath Purity Dwa,Gno,Pix Dru,Cle,Ran - - Visit, Defensive Magic, Bury Corpses, Sac Corpses Killing (No issue for archery/rangecasting kills)
Ghordohl Wealth - - Dwarves Orcs Bury Corpses, Steal, Kill Orcs , Give Ghordohl Gold* Kill Dwarves
Keltas Poor - - Halflings Goblins Pick Locks, Kill Goblins Kill Halflings
Kalerd Summer - - Pixies Vampires Kill Vampires, Sac Corpses Kill Pixies, Flee
Tirebaen Winter - - Vampires - Kill, Use Magic, Sac Corpses, Backstab/Circle Flee
Cawyn Storms Elf,H-Elf,S-Elf - - Humans Kill Human, Backstab/Circle Kill Magicals, Flee
Sil-Galith Mountains Dwa,H-Trol,H-Ogr - - Lizardmen Kill, Kill Lizardmen, Sac Corpses Kill Dwarves
Masefi Wind - - Pixie H-Trolls Kill H-Trolls, Flee, Flee Pixies Kill Pixie, Die
Grishnakh Orcs H-Orc - - Halflings Kill, Kill Halflings, Sac Corpses Kill Orcs, Flee, Die, Backstab/Circle
Tempus War - War,Bar Wolves Giants Kill, Kill Giants, Sac Corpses Kill Wolves, Use Magic, Flee, Die
  • Additional Notes:
    • Estathius: Is not fooled by sex-change affects
    • Tempus: See 'Tempuran Slash'. Cast's sanc on you if you visit him at loved.
    • Shivvan: Gain favor by Visiting like A'enari/Vl'aresch but much harder to get to. Also, will steal your gold
    • Sh'vath: Gain favor by Visiting like A'enari/Vl'aresch, goes a bit higher to Cherished.
    • Ghordhol: Gain favor by Visiting and giving them gold. Approx 1m per favor level.
    • Kalerd: Gain favor by Visiting their Naos and examining the orb every 30-40 minutes.
    • Tirebaen: Gain favor by Visiting their Naos and examining the tureen every 30-40 minutes
    • Sil-Galith: Casts sanc, elemental shields, armor, bless, shield, and valiance on you if you pray to her ([See Here])

Benefits Table

This shows 'what you get' with each deity:

Deity Sigil Stat (+1) Max Favor Resist Max Favor Affect Mid Favor Affect Low Favor Affect Sigil Rename Super Sigil Extra Crap
A'enari Int Unholy Scry DetMagic DetEvil Aura of the Righteous Benevolence
Vl'aresch Wis Holy DetInvis DetHidden ? black depravity Malignancy
Bron'trel Lck Paralysis DetHidden DetEvil ? a precise brillance Objectivity
LaChte Dex Drain DetInvis DetTraps ? maelstrom of chaos ?
Z'hyal Int Fire Fireshield DetHidden Infravision flames of the sun ?
Gre'vos Int Acid DetInvis ? ? Deadly Night Shade Moonlight
Mak'kor Con Holy Fireshield DetTraps DetHidden Eyes of the Demon ?
Bael Str Magic Fireshield DetHidden Sneak life's finale ? cape of the lifeless void
Sarane Wis NonMagic Protection Float Detect Evil chantilly lace Femininity the ethereal veil of the siren
Wirawyth Con Paralysis Iceshield Float/Fervor Infravision clashing swords ?
Estathius Wis Magic & NonMagic Scry DetEvil DetMagic Aura of the Abstract Inertia
Kardis Str Pierce DetInvis Sneak ? Grievance Strife Kardis's potion of black vapors
Adendra Str Poison Protection Resist POI 10% Scry creed ? Adendra's rainbow elixir
Shivvan Dex Energy Hide Sneak DetMagic Inflamed depravity ? Shivvan's staff of gluttony
Sh'Vath Cha Drain Protection Fly Infravision Innocence Purity Eternal Youth
Ghordohl Cha Slash DetHidden DetInvis DetMagic a twinkling coin Treasure
Keltas Dex Blunt Invis Sneak DetEvil beacon of hope Mediocrity a beggar's potion of healing
Kalerd Con Fire Fly ? ? summer sun ?
Tirebaen Con Cold Fly Hide DetMagic ice crystals EverWinter
Cawyn Int Electricity Shockshield Float Sneak a bolt of lightning Tempest Cawyn's anklet of storms
Sil-Galith Str Blunt PassDoor DetInvis DetHidden heaven stone Zenith
Masefi Dex Electricity PassDoor Fly Aquabreath the breeze Hurricane The crystal prism of Masefi
Grishnakh Str Paralysis Shockshield Float ? None None
Tempus Str Paralysis Berserker Rage Fleetfoot ? None None


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